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Welcome to the official Minnesota Climbing Cooperative blog. The Co-op blog was created for sharing information about the climbing community and starting positive conversation among climbers from around Minnesota.

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Tuesday, March 29, 2011

To the Members of the Minnesota Climbing Cooperative,

I am sure you are all wondering when The Co-op is going to open and I would like to start off by offering our sincerest apologies for keeping you in the dark. The first reason for our lack of communication, as of late, is that we on the board, as well as a handful of dedicated volunteers, have been furiously working on the build-out. Until last week, we were on track to open April first. Unfortunately, it now appears that we will be unable to make that date.

The main reason for this is that severe mistakes were made by of The City of Minneapolis. The City of Minneapolis literally( and I mean literally- we can show you the plans with the stamp on them) gave us their stamp of approval to go ahead and build. They did so with the assurance that we did not need to provide detailed structural diagrams, and that we did not need to worry about fire prevention- given that the space is already sprinkled. Upon completion and inspection of the initial structure, The City did a complete 180 and asked for an engineer's approval, as well as, a fire inspection. We have since received approval from an engineer, but we have been unable to discern whether or not we will need to add sprinklers to the surface of our climbing walls.

This is the other reason we have been silent as of late- we too are in the dark.

As of the time I write this email, The City of Minneapolis contends that we must install sprinklers on the surface of our climbing walls. We believe that they are wrong in their initial conclusion and we are not alone. No less than four fire professionals have expressed their opinion that The City is overreaching in its assertion that we must sprinkle our overhanging walls. Furthermore, we have had a conversation with a St. Paul fire inspector who agreed that walls such as ours (which are very similar to those in the B2 cave at VE) should not need to be sprinkled beyond the existing fire protection. As the saying goes, we are not reinventing the wheel. There are 3 existing gyms in the state of Minnesota, which all have overhanging walls, and which are all subject to the same Minnesota State Fire Code. They do not have to install sprinklers in their climbing surfaces and we believe we should not either. In fact, we have been researching gyms across the country and we have yet to find one that has fire sprinklers in its walls. The vast majority of States and Municipalities follow National Fire Protection Association standards and therefore their code requirements should be similar if not identical to ours.

At this point we are in dialog with The City but we just don't have a concrete answer yet. Given the extremely short timeline between now and our projected start date of April first, we feel that we should push back the start date to Saturday April 16th.

We will make this Climbing Co-op happen. We only have some very rough estimates as to how much it will cost to sprinkle our walls but those estimates seem within reach. Even so, we have stretched our build-out funds to the max and board members as well as others are chipping in more to help make this happen. If you want this to happen, and if you believe in what we are doing, please make a donation. Twenty, ten, even five dollars will help. There is a link at our website http://www.mnclimbingcoop.com/ where you can donate via paypal. If you would like to contribute a larger amount, are a member (which you should be if you are receiving this email), and live in the State of Minnesota or Wisconsin, you also have the option to buy stock. Buying stock in the Co-op should not be considered an investment as there will be no financial gain, but it is a goal of the Co-op to someday buy back the stock that helped to get us started. If you would like to buy some stock please contact us at info@mnclimbingcoop.com for more details.

And lastly I would like to assure those of you who bought annual passes that your passes will not start until we open.

This is going to be a different type of gym. This gym will be run by members for members. You all have a vote. THIS IS YOUR GYM.

Thank you

Jacob A Gerber - Vice Chair

Monday, March 7, 2011

A Great Start!


Well, we're off to a great start! The lumber has all been delivered, we've framed up the 50 and 60 degree walls! We're moving so fast, we have to wait a day for the structural engineers for the building to catch up on the work that they have to do before we can continue.

A special thanks to all who came out to help us this weekend! This includes Keith, Chris, Dan, Micah, Lynn, Jim, Aaron, Mike, Matt, Liz, Vern, Scott and Jacob. Extra thanks to Kris for leading the build out and keeping everyone on task! (I'm sorry if I missed you). For all those who have emailed us offering their help with their contact information, thanks! We'll continue to email you/give you a call as we need more hands. We hope the structure work is finished tomorrow so we can begin the next part tomorrow night, or Wednesday.

... stay tuned, and if you're not following us on Facebook, we post pictures there as soon as we take them!

Friday, March 4, 2011

We Have Wood.

The wood has been (precariously?) delivered!

We start building tomorrow at 8:00 AM. If your interested in helping out with the build, please send an email to info@mnclimbingcoop.com to let us know if you want to give us a hand. Let us know when you can help, and what building experience you may have!

Tuesday, March 1, 2011

MNCC @ the Expo

We will have table at the Midwest Mountaineering Outdoor Adventure Expo on April 17th. Come visit us and check out all of the cool things going on at the Expo. It's a great event, and you don't want to miss it!

Thursday, February 24, 2011

The Build Out...

To get the build out going, our plan of action is to start by building the support tower, then once the lumber is delivered, put up the support beams, and frame in the basic structure. We've given Kris Johnson the daunting task of guiding the build out process and making sure everything is built to specification, and that we have all the supplies we need to stay on track. Kris is the man.

Thanks to everyone for the community feedback regarding the wall build-out plans.

We've received lots of great feedback from members, access pass holders and other interested climbers and it's been extremely helpful. Based on feedback, structural restrictions, and the amount of investment money we have available for the build-out, we've made some adjustments to our initial build-out designs.

We are now planning on ...
  • moving the 60° and 50° walls around.
  • smoothing out some of the transitions to reduce right angles.
  • moving the cave opening to the front of the tower and opening up the cave wall next to the 45° to allow for exit points on two sides
  • Building a stalactite feature to utilize the support for the corner of the cave
  • Angling the top-outs to make them more interesting than flat surfaces
  • Opening up the side walls of the 50° and 60°.
  • A prow feature on the corner of the tower.

Operation City Approval, Success!

The kind folks at the Minneapolis permit office have approve our change of occupancy to "assembly" and issued a permit to build. We now have our building permit from the City of Lakes. The Bohm building management team has started the process of replacing the industrial sliding door with double doors that can tie into our keycard system. They have requested that no one be in the space while they are working on the doors so they can maintain a safe work area, and we will oblige. After the doors are installed, we can start building.


With this knowledge, we are wholly confident that we will be open by April 1st, 2011!


We have had an overwhelming amount of offers from people who are excited to help out with the build-out. Your support is greatly appreciated! We are specifically looking for people with building skills and experience. If you have either of those please let us know. We are planning on getting a calendar up on line to let people know when we will be working on the build, and what phase.

Monday, February 7, 2011

January Sale Success, and Our TODO list

Thanks to all who bought a 1-Year access pass during the January sale! We have sold 65 memberships, and 42 1-year passes so far with quite a few people who will be buying when we open. Thanks also to all those who purchased stock as this is what we need to complete our build out.

We were hoping to get $20,000 for our initial build-out, but we made our minimum bare-bones build out amount of $16,000. That's enough to build (but not for all the cool stuff we want in the gym). Please contact us at info@mnclimbingcoop.com if you are willing to pitch in a few bucks to help cover any additional build-out costs. For smaller amounts, you can use the DONATE button to the right. For larger amounts, you have the option of purchasing stock certificates. Please contact us for details.

We have some more news on the Climbing Coop. We've met with the city a few times now, and we've been ensured that our wall plans are good, our occupancy and exits are OK, and now we just have to wait for the paperwork to go through. When we last met, they "said" it would be about 10 days go get the paperwork through.

We've placed the order for the flooring and the order for our lumber is all queued up and ready to go. We're itching to start the build, but we need to make sure that the last of our ducks are in order first.

Taking all of those things into consideration, we should be able to have the leased signed and the city approvals within a week. Add to that a 4 week build-out and we hope to be open Mid-March!